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I installed the current Magic 2011 database from GoblinHero, and changed nothing else in MWS, and now when I open MWS it stops loading the database, throwing an error box DEBUG: Insufficient memory for this operation.

I didnt have any trouble before this.
With MWS loading up showing no databases open, if I try to open the masterbase with Ctrl-M, it shows the same error.

Now, if I switch to use the beta/bugfix version of MWS exe from fall 2009, that can load this current database. Just not the stable 0.94f exe.

MWS will load any of my older+smaller masterbases.

The current card count is now 18388.. filesize is 5,515,042 bytes.
Has the data exceeded MWS's capabilities??
What can I do to get it to load? I've tried removing some pricebases from my view to free up memory, but its not helping.

**ANYONE else experiencing this?**

Real problem not in "Insufficient memory", but in internal null pointer exception, in Delphi 7 class library, which I can't fix because no official fix for Delphi 7 was available. It's really happens random on some computers.

Looks like its the same problem as with inventories - if it's bigger than some critical size error can occur (not on all computers). I can't help it. Devs too That's why I no longer use MWS.

crap! well foo..

Still interesting that the beta bugfix exe loads it ok.. but of course it was fixed for this sort of error

Thankfully the ROE base is still on mwsgames so I can roll back..

I'm going to play around with the current database and see if I can delete some excess cards to get the stable exe to load it. Or, add just M2011 to the ROE base. I noticed the latest base has a lot of changes - lots of new set codes + promos, so I hope the critical size threshold is close and I can get under it.

It might be prudent to add a warning on the M2011 database - back up your old masterbase, this one may cause an error, best to test it first..

Det: Maybe now is a good time to release 0.94g? (but without all the functionality left broken in the old bugfix exe)

Ok! Success!
I removed just over 100 records (now 18284) and the base now loads normally in the stable exe.
I also ran the base compress tool but I dont think it helped any.

Removed sets (primarily new promos just added in latest GH update):
I2P, FBP, MPS, SUM, MGD, CVP, GAM, STO
I've changed several individuated promo sets' cards back to PR like the book/mag inserts (and removed their set name entries), but thats more for price matching and old MWS deck compatibility.
(I've also manually edited records for split cards to correct the <hr> to //)

I'm uploading this smaller base and its sets.dat here, so for those who also get this DEBUG error, download this and overwrite your files like other updates..

Ok, I will use your fixed database for new mtggamepack.exe
I hope before new set will released I will find workaround for this bug.

Whoa.. hold on.
I found something.. the REAL reason why *I* was getting the error.
So I had just run the mtg_gamepack to get back to the ROE database so I could open MWS successfully. I edited the newer base, and it worked..
UNTIL...
I realized the gamepack overwrote my rulings.dat, that I had been keeping up to date from crystalkeep. My file was around 4mb; the original is 2.9mb. I updated my file (of course I have to close the masterbase from view in order for the rulings update to succeed without error), and BOOM, the masterbase will not open, again (DEBUG)!

So it IS "insufficient memory" - large rulings.dat plus large masterbase.
Turned off all pricebases: still DEBUG
Overwrote rulings.dat back to gamepack version: base loads ok

Now I have to delete MORE cards from my base to try to get it to load, while keeping my current rulings (the rulings in the gamepack are VERY out of date).. or go without rulings.
The ROE database had 17700 or so cards, I'm currently 500 more records above that (primarily M11 and Archenemy) so Det, hold on while I pare down the data more and find a happy medium.

If you're using Windows 64-bit, you might be able to get this working by running MagicWorkstation.exe in Windows XP SP3 compatibility mode.