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Ok once again I seem to be lost as to what you keep referring to as "the tokens". Theres is one, and only one, way to make our random creatures in MWS: the token box. How are you getting around this??
Are you making .full.jpg images in a TK folder that when a token is properly named, will show the nice full pic that can be referred to instead of typing text into the token box (still doesnt get around clicking in colors and stuff cause MWS forces you to set some stuff minimally)?
Or are we back to the standalone program that does keyboard macros?

Please for my sanity stop referring to "the tokens" as such and call it something much more descriptive.

I assumed users had no choice other than to make the tokens themselves, so im making this html data dump that has the text in it ready for copy/paste, with the rows numbered (and its kinda randomized, i clicked the edition column then mana column before exporting and it looks fairly random). We still need the list of cards for searching out the die rolls.

I already have the inventory 100%, why do you want it as a base? that makes it harder to click on stuff for selecting.



Further research into making an all-in-one HTML file is indeed failing, im up to 0 thru 4 CC and firefox takes over a minute to fully load up the file. If I proceed I would have to make a multi-file set with links to jump to each CC group-file.
If the confidence level is high on the auto-entry macro program then I can drop back to a number-name only list that looks better than a spreadsheet and is jump navigable.

ShadowDrakken was the one who wanted the Inventory converted to a Base. I could care less what the format is. The inventory file has worked flawlessly for me up till now so if an Inventory file is what you have, then an inventory file is what I will gladly use

Once I get my hands on the inventory file I can create a search engine. All the user will have to do is load my HTML file into their browser, type in the CC cost in one text box and type in the number of the creature they rolled in a second text box. They click on a "search" button and it immediately returns the name of the creature that they need to create.

I am calling them tokens because that is what I am creating. Forget the macro program as how I am creating the tokens doesn't matter. Here is an example of how somebody will be able to use my tokens.

1. User announces they are going for a 3cc creature and taps their lands accordingly
2. The user rolls an X sided die and the number 177 is the result
3. The user switches over to their browser where they have my creature search engine loaded.
4. They enter in 3 in the CC text box and 177 in the creature number text box.
5. They hit search and the name "Haunting Apparition" is returned
6. The user switches back to MWS and opens up the token creation window
7. In the list of "predefined/previously saved tokens" there is a massive list which contains one of each creature found in the Inventory file. They scroll through this list until they find Haunting Apparition.
8. They click on Haunting Apparition, click on the Edit button (they must click edit to populate the token fields with the saved tokens information), and click on OK.
9. The token Haunting Apparition is now in play. If the user took the time to copy the Haunting Apparition image into the TK folder then the token will have card art. Note that art is an additional step that will be covered in my Momir guide but has nothing to do with "my token project".

I hope this step by step walk through finally cleared up the purpose of my token project. If it did not, let me know what part I lost you at, and I will try to go into more detail from that point on

If you have the Inventory file created and ready to go please send it my way. I will do my best to get the HTML search engine and tokens created in a short amount of time. Currently the HTML Search Engine should be no problem to create but there is a chance that when I actually sit down to write the code that I will find it is beyond my capabilities. I have created more complex things in the past so I don't think it will be a problem. If it becomes a problem I will be sure to let you know immediately.

Even if it doesn't work out I am sure that I can create an HTML file that would be easier to work with than the current Excel files. Mainly because not everybody wants to bother with MSOffice or Open Office. Anyway send that Inventory my way as soon as you finish it up .

quite honestly, all this debating has made me lose interest altogether... I barely play Magic online, as I have plenty of physical cards and more people to play with in person than online anyway

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Nobody here plays Magic ShadowDrakken . So does this mean you won't be creating your program then?

probably eventually, but the holidays have me swamped with work and family, and I have several personal projects on top of that...

so overwelmed at the moment that I just have a hard time keeping interest in anything, least of all when there's this much arguing over petty things

I figured as much . In that case it looks like Planeswlk and I can finish this up .

Would it be unreasonable just to put every possible creature into sideboard, then copy them as needed? It might crash MWS though :S

Already tried that. MWS didn't crash but the loading time was over 15 minutes just to get into MWSPlay. Now upon restarting MWS, MWS would crash as it attempted to load the bottom pane .

Okay! So its 2 parts, a scripted HTML with (im guessing) a hidden data block for searching; and a .reg file to be imported that will populate the predefined tokens area.

So thats how we're autofilling the tokens. Crafty!
Well, questions.. how in the heck do you put several hundred KB worth of card data into one registry entry? There are limits on character length. Also how do you know MWS wont crash trying to load up the key?


Shadow: we arent debating anymore were discussing semantics Just about how to actually get a final product made and delivered.
PS. Please mail me these persons you have in excess to play with!

I can't believe I never tested my token theory. Sure enough when I created serveral thousand identical tokens this morning, for testing purposes, the MWS process had to be killed. Whenever I tried to create a token or exit the token creation window MWS would return the error "Error creating MWS token data" or something to that extent.

So at this point what I have to create as a search engine. The easiest way to do this will be to create a single HTML file for each monster. The monsters will be separated into different folders based on their CC. The first part of the search engine, where you specify how many CC of a monster you'll be looking for, will merely tell the engine what folder it will be searching in.

The second part of the search engine, where you specify the monster number, will obviously pull out file X as it is listed in alphabetical order within the directory.

The html file's contents will be loaded into a frame on the same page the search engine exists on. It will contain the create name, p/t, color, and ability text. The person will then have to manually copy the ability text, switch over to MWSPlay, and manually create their token.

While this is still very time consuming it is somewhat faster than the current method. God what I would give for somebody to make a port. The author could just have all the tokens in a predefined file. You rolled, it referenced this file, and created the token for you *sigh*

I don't know. The more I think about the HTML file I think of how long it will take to create and just how little time it will actually be saving. I don't know, what do you think Planeswlk. Is the file really going to save that much time? Is it worth spending a couple weeks creating?

I'm confused as to what I should be doing. Can we all agree on having Planeswlk take the point on this? Planeswlk, is that ok with you? You seem to have it the most together of the four of us (me, Planeswlk, Mulsi, and Shadow) who have actually spent time working on this. If given the word to continue doing the spreadsheet lists or inventory maintenance I'm willing. If you have any other tasks you'd like done that are doable with basic computer skills, I'll take those on as well.

Planeswlk appears to have taken over the Inventory work for now. You can pretty much sit back and enjoy Momir if you like. If you'd like to continue work on Momir I am positive I can find something I need plenty of help with as far as the HTML portion of the project is concerned.

Please note though that you shouldn't feel obligated to help. Your Inventory file jump started the project, ShadowDrakken appears to have lost all interest, and Planeswlk has decided to handle the updates for the Inventory from now on.

I think all we're really waiting on is a new list of some kind. Whether it be an Excel file or set of HTML files, we're nearing completion of the Momir Port. At this point I really want to hear what Planeswlk has to say about the HTML project I was talking about in my last post .

hmm..
Now it seems the macro typing program looks like a very good answer, until the new play module comes out (which should have the 'create any card' option and DDE control).

I think I will continue what I started with the nicely formatted numbered HTML lists. One file to do it all!

So it looks like Planeswlk has put Brevinwannabe and I both out of jobs . Godspeed Mr. Planeswlk .

So the next version of MWS is going to have a "create any card" token option? All you'll have to do is type in the name and the token will be created for you? I don't remember reading about this. Are you positive that it will be released with the next version of MWS and it isn't on Detonators "To-Do List"? That is a very long list my friend.